tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6617677799085549365.post7170928164939683986..comments2024-03-12T22:45:16.936+01:00Comments on The Disoriented Ranger: Basic Random Terrain GeneratorJens D.http://www.blogger.com/profile/18394303166081684904noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6617677799085549365.post-3915494793512596052019-12-10T06:42:05.264+01:002019-12-10T06:42:05.264+01:00Not a problem! I'm around. I'm just not do...Not a problem! I'm around. I'm just not doing a lot with the blog right now. Still writing that game, though, and this little conversation just helped me to realize something: I need to find something that applies when you roll more than 4 Layers in a hex and that might just be population and infrastructure. I feel another table coming :)Jens D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18394303166081684904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6617677799085549365.post-500578687647447992019-12-10T06:36:23.507+01:002019-12-10T06:36:23.507+01:00Exactly.Exactly.Jens D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18394303166081684904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6617677799085549365.post-80238811490811408202019-12-10T00:01:48.495+01:002019-12-10T00:01:48.495+01:00Thanks for the quick feedback; I just noticed your...Thanks for the quick feedback; I just noticed your replies :)Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14322782126113868388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6617677799085549365.post-44357977053441015552019-12-09T23:04:08.170+01:002019-12-09T23:04:08.170+01:00Got it - you roll for a newly entered hex until yo...Got it - you roll for a newly entered hex until you get the next direction; any roll not specifying a change of direction is by definition a layer. Cool beans!Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14322782126113868388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6617677799085549365.post-1375788191595016102019-12-09T22:22:37.422+01:002019-12-09T22:22:37.422+01:00Actually, the example linked above has another lin...Actually, the example linked above has another link to Part 2, where the system is explained a little more in depth. That example is more like an intermission of sorts. Could have solved that one better, I guess :)Jens D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18394303166081684904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6617677799085549365.post-55801519180649030612019-12-09T22:17:55.444+01:002019-12-09T22:17:55.444+01:00Thanks! And thanks for stopping by! The rolls are ...Thanks! And thanks for stopping by! The rolls are linear, so the first roll is a 26, just plain land. The second roll is 418. If the first die in that result had turned up being 7 to 10, it'd have generated a layer right there with the 26, instead we got a 4, which means the 18 describes a new hex. The third roll was the 858, and that's automatically a layer because of the 8 as first result. The fourth is the 937, another layer, and with the fifth roll we finally get a new hex with the 5 in the lead ... and so on. The rolls are consecutive, but hexes may grow bigger, if you will, as the following rolls may create layers (which has a 40% chance, so it's bound to happen). I'm thinking about limiting the number of layers per hex (3 or 4, I think), but that's it.<br /><br />I hope that helps! That example linked above might help as well.Jens D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18394303166081684904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6617677799085549365.post-65780306836622095932019-12-09T20:02:18.855+01:002019-12-09T20:02:18.855+01:00Interesting post.
Let's go on. The next roll ...Interesting post.<br /><br />Let's go on. The next roll is 418, direction is and it's even deeper than the initial roll. It's a natural border, the landscape going from lakeside to rugged delta in the south. We also got two layers here, an 8 (connection to darkness) and a 9 (connection to fairy realm).<br /><br />I'm missing a step. Question: why (how) were the two layers generated in hex 418?Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14322782126113868388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6617677799085549365.post-66504960813516022162015-06-15T14:03:00.830+02:002015-06-15T14:03:00.830+02:00You need to keep the medium in mind on this one. ...You need to keep the medium in mind on this one. It"s the complete Roman road system ... on a single scroll. That causes most of the distortion, and towards your question, as long as the traveler could ask which road do o take to get to the next town, topographical details aren't that important. You don't get accurate topographic maps (in Europe at least) until you reach the late Medieval or early Renaissance Italian portos, or harbor charts. As far as labs use, as late as the Napoleonic wars, topographic studies were non-existant. That was one of the big lessons which made West Point emphasize surveying and topographic maps in the pre-Civil War era. Which in turn caused the railroad industry to poach young officers like McClellan from the army.Rod Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12824146866756155345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6617677799085549365.post-72353123804080021582015-06-15T14:02:59.749+02:002015-06-15T14:02:59.749+02:00You need to keep the medium in mind on this one. ...You need to keep the medium in mind on this one. It"s the complete Roman road system ... on a single scroll. That causes most of the distortion, and towards your question, as long as the traveler could ask which road do o take to get to the next town, topographical details aren't that important. You don't get accurate topographic maps (in Europe at least) until you reach the late Medieval or early Renaissance Italian portos, or harbor charts. As far as labs use, as late as the Napoleonic wars, topographic studies were non-existant. That was one of the big lessons which made West Point emphasize surveying and topographic maps in the pre-Civil War era. Which in turn caused the railroad industry to poach young officers like McClellan from the army.Rod Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12824146866756155345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6617677799085549365.post-83656900579033792512015-06-14T20:40:12.679+02:002015-06-14T20:40:12.679+02:00What Onno and Rob said covered it all, I think (th...What Onno and Rob said covered it all, I think (thanks, guys). Check the complete picture of that map on the wikipedia page linked above, Johnn, it's very interesting.Jens D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18394303166081684904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6617677799085549365.post-24195051480975240922015-06-14T19:23:28.048+02:002015-06-14T19:23:28.048+02:00You need to keep the medium in mind on this one. ...You need to keep the medium in mind on this one. It"s the complete Roman road system ... on a single scroll. That causes most of the distortion, and towards your question, as long as the traveler could ask which road do o take to get to the next town, topographical details aren't that important. You don't get accurate topographic maps (in Europe at least) until you reach the late Medieval or early Renaissance Italian portos, or harbor charts. As far as labs use, as late as the Napoleonic wars, topographic studies were non-existant. That was one of the big lessons which made West Point emphasize surveying and topographic maps in the pre-Civil War era. Which in turn caused the railroad industry to poach young officers like McClellan from the army.Rod Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12824146866756155345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6617677799085549365.post-45242822923943628882015-06-14T18:00:00.129+02:002015-06-14T18:00:00.129+02:00As far as I know, ancient and medieval maps are mo...As far as I know, ancient and medieval maps are more similar to modern topological maps (like the London tube map) than to modern topographic maps: They show how you get from one location to the other and which alternate ways exist, but they do not show an area true to scale.Onnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16535742155511617318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6617677799085549365.post-24047256237512034802015-06-14T16:55:36.104+02:002015-06-14T16:55:36.104+02:00Cool map! I wonder if it reflects the world seen b...Cool map! I wonder if it reflects the world seen by foot as opposed to car and plane?Johnn Fourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01454767774433932567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6617677799085549365.post-19751145389707979972015-06-14T16:01:58.041+02:002015-06-14T16:01:58.041+02:00Love the concept and the old map, I used it myself...Love the concept and the old map, I used it myself I'm a talk I gave last year.Rod Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12824146866756155345noreply@blogger.com