tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6617677799085549365.post3109646810455454641..comments2024-03-12T22:45:16.936+01:00Comments on The Disoriented Ranger: Hacking Hackmaster Part 2 (who needs charisma anyway?)Jens D.http://www.blogger.com/profile/18394303166081684904noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6617677799085549365.post-4397964831586941222016-05-23T12:02:24.125+02:002016-05-23T12:02:24.125+02:00I had exactly this argument with a friend of mine ...I had exactly this argument with a friend of mine and he said something that convinced me otherwise. Mostly he'd have agreed with what you said. Charisma can be seen as exactly this. He just saw Charisma not as one ability score among others but as the sum of the other five. So if you are muscular, persevering, agile, witty and wise, you'd most certainly count as charismatic (and hated a lot, but that's a different matter altogether) because that is what it means. That video you linked is another good example. Sapiosexual (going for the INT) is a thing as is heterosexual or partialism ("Look at those arms!") ... It's not all "Charisma" or it's all "Charisma" :) Luck works pretty nice as ability score. Never missed Charisma.Jens D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18394303166081684904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6617677799085549365.post-27997120690551977762016-05-22T22:48:38.075+02:002016-05-22T22:48:38.075+02:00I want to agree with you on this one - because it ...I want to agree with you on this one - because it is a good thought - but I'm not sure if I can. I think Charisma is actually the ability to think quickly. It's a parallel to dexterity. You can have all the intelligence or strength or wisdom in the world but if you don't have a way of quickly showing it to the crowd, you're not going to be impressing anyone.<br /><br />Luck as an attribute score I do like, if only so you can say "just give me a luck check" which I find comes up time and time again.<br /><br />As far as picking up girls is concerned, it's all about luck :-). <br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qYZAffIRjo&feature=youtu.be&t=21m1sJD McDonnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11733422185181944721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6617677799085549365.post-85905833717284313562011-11-13T17:52:38.556+01:002011-11-13T17:52:38.556+01:00Hi! And thank you for commenting! I didn't arg...Hi! And thank you for commenting! I didn't argue that CHA as an ability doesn't work. As you point out, it works just fine. The idea is, it might not be necessary.<br /><br />As an counter argument I would offer that without the display of the other 5 attributes you can't produce Charisma in any social interaction. With an Intelligence of 3 you won't be able to express yourself properly, a low Constitution makes you very weak and vulnerable (and it shows), while a lack of Dexterity... well, I could go on like this. The point is that Charisma (in social interaction) is the SUMM of those 5 ability scores and playing the game is the display. That's actually an argument one of my players made yesterday while we were discussing the issue: Charisma is something you want to achieve while playing the character. It's something the player does, not an attribute.<br /><br />I won't deny that our cultural perception of Conan is diverse at best. Doesn't make it wrong to quote one of those varieties, though.<br /><br />I like your idea of rolling 1d6 to determine what an NPC might prefer very much and might use it as soon as the opportunity arises!Jens D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18394303166081684904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6617677799085549365.post-25337211851149164952011-11-11T23:44:16.971+01:002011-11-11T23:44:16.971+01:00I like Charisma. And I think it doesn't work t...I like Charisma. And I think it doesn't work to pick up chicks based on the bulge of your muscles. Charisma is by definition your ability to interact with people. So the Barbarian with high STR and low CHA has the personality of an uncultured jock or typical club-douche. The Thief with high DEX but low CHA might be able to roll a nickel across the back of his knuckles but the lady is going to be freaked out by his skeeziness. Same with the intellectual with low CHA, he might know some higher math or be able to structure an argument, but he's hopeless at any kind of social interaction. MAYBE it could work to say that this woman is turned on by (roll 1d6, refer to ability score list in order) in addition to caring about Charisma. But Charisma is how well you present your other qualities or mask their absence, which means low CHA and high everything else means you might actually be strong or wise, but nobody will care. <br /><br />I think Conan was originally supposed to be an all-around good stats guy. Cunning, intrepid, strong, agile, etc. It's only certain authors / directors who made him out to be an artless beefslab.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com